This week we’re delighted to welcome back best friend of the show, Kyle Borgognoni, for the latest episode of The IDP Trade Show. You know Kyle from Fantasy Footballers Dynasty and Fantasy Footballers DFS & Betting, but tomorrow, he’ll be helping us break down your trades — both offense and IDP! Drop them below (with as much detail as possible) and we’ll discuss them on the show.
No Position Left Behind IDP Scoring, 84 teams (6 player copies so functions like 14), 5 IDP positions, start 11 IDP, promotion/relegation so 2025 pick ranges are known
Give - 2025 2nd (effectively 2.08-2.10)
Get - 2025 3rd (effectively 3.01-3.03), CJ Gardner-Johnson (CB designation), Budda Baker
Secondary was rough coming into the draft and waivers are picked pretty clean. CJ replaces Asante Samuel and Budda replaces Rayshawn Jenkins as projected starters for me.
Hey JoluGax! We enlisted Professor IDP's help breaking this one down. Here's what he said: Garrett for Kelce seems fair on both sides but give me Kelce. Offense (particularly TE) is more scarce than IDP so if I have to trade elite for elite, give me the elite offensive weapon. The only caveat to this is that I don’t know your roster settings. If you start 10 offensive players and 5 IDP (like one of my leagues), this becomes even more of a slam dunk for the Kelce side. If you start 11/11 (and have deep benches) it gets a lot more level but I would still lean Kelce. If the imbalance is towards IDP such as start 6 offense and 11 IDP, this becomes a much more difficult question.
Hey Albert! Professor IDP helped us break this one down. Here's his analysis: Not so sure about this one. For offensive pieces I like to look at FantasyPros dynasty ECR. The consensus is that you traded WR7 (OVR10) for WR26 (OVR53) RB16 (OVR59). I like Trice and you got him at a good value with 4.13 (he is my #50 overall rookie) but I don’t know if that is enough to close the gap all of the way. If you have James Conner on your roster and are win-now, were stacked at WR beyond Brown where you could afford to lose him, or are starting a rebuild I like this more for you.
Hi Akin! We had Professor IDP weigh in on this one, here was his take: I am much lower than most on Puka, have already largely given up on Wandale, and as much as I like EJ speed for 2024, he will be a free agent just shy of 30 when March 2025 rolls around. Give me the youth and draft capital invested in Odunze, Burton tied to a high powered offense, Anderson in tackle factory in ATL (if he wins the job back), a likely green dot guy in White, and a potential second-year breakout in Simpson. While the sky is the limit with Puka, it’s hard to imagine his value going up any more so this is a great time to see if you want to cash out and this is the haul that would do it for me.
- 10-team Dynasty, Superflex, PPR, 12 Off. (2 TE but no distinct TE scoring), 12 Def., 29 bench, 8 IR
- PPR, Tackle Heavy-ish format - 3pt solo, 0.5pt assisted, 2pt TFL, 3pt sack, 2pt QB hit (e.g., solo sack = 10pts; ast. sack = 6). Let me know if more scoring info is needed.
22 Psquad drafted rookies only with no cap hits unless activated
Defensive players $ value is total projected points divided by 15. Defenders are the most expensive and put up the most points. My league IDP rules the set.
We also use a formula to extend players and give a discount on salary but leave the discount in the contract as guaranteed money. If you extend 4 years it’s a 25% discount off the price of the player, 3 years 20%, 2 years 15% and if you extend for only a year there’s no discount. If you drop that player before the contract is done, you eat that money off your salary cap. Prices for offensive players are pre determined by football analysts average costs and defense is always changing Projected total of Year / 15
During the season you add YtD + Projections/15
All offense waivers are a minimum of $1 we do use Faab to bid and that’s the cost of the player.
I was up against my cap after our in person auction. I picked up some young pieces for $1 each. I won more than I wanted the guys I gave up in the trade were clogging roster as I have stud DL depth. Crosby, Greenard, karloftis, Jermaine Johnson, Hubbard, burns
My lb core : edwards, Ernest jones, Luvu, Campbell (practice squad) Anderson
Dbs hamilton, James, Blackmon, curl
Proposed a trade to acquire Brock Purdy, for 2 reasons I have A.Rodgers on a 1 year $5 deal, Carr on a 1 -$1, Fields in a 3 year $5 per year with $2 guaranteed. I can’t drop anyone of these guys. With the big bye week taking the Jets and Saints off the field, I’ll have to hope Fields is starting by then… not a fan.
Second reason is I have CMC he’s on a 4 year $22 per year with $9 guaranteed.
Purdy is a 5 year $2 no G$ contract
I won the championship last season. So here’s the deal.
I feel like I could write a second dissertation on the economy of this league! Based on what I've read here is how I see the trade from both sides and my ultimate opinion.
You lose some IDP depth but they are in places you are already solid and/or have high potential pieces on your PS. Plus, swapping Spillane's contract for Purdy's is a huge win. I would say you are in a better position to repeat as champion after this move not just because your team is better but also since you have more cap flexibility now.
That said, if the other owner is in a rebuild, it makes some sense on that end too since they pick up two young and cheap IDP and another piece in Spillane that they can move to a contender for more youth/capital (plus 1.12 this year which could be a nice player or flipped for more rebuilding).
Still, in a league such as yours, I would much rather have Purdy than 3 IDP and a late 1st. The thirds you got back put it over the top for me since they'll help you churn your PS and there is a ton of great developmental talent in the 3rd of most drafts this year and getting IDP rookies seems to be the way in this league since their 1st year projections are usually very low meaning they will be great values.
Mike, this is one of the most insane league setups I've ever seen (said as a total compliment lol). It's a little too much contextually for us to cover on the show, so we're calling in our resident degenerate trade expert Scott Soltis (AKA Professor IDP) to look this one over and give feedback. Thanks for sending it in!
What’s a good email to send the rule book over to, I would love for you guys to take a peak! I think if you’re into dynasty you will never come across a league like this one. I would be happy to share with my favorite IDP guys
10 team Dynasty contract league. I have Bobby Okereke with only 1 year left on his contract, so I’ll lose him to FA after this season. I have a trade offer straight up for Nick Bolton. I can reassign contract years after the trade.
Scott, can you explain the "reassign contract years" part of this deal? Are you saying you can give Bolton the contract Okereke has, meaning you're swapping Okereke for Bolton and both expire after this year? Or would Bolton have some years left on his deal?
No Position Left Behind IDP Scoring, 84 teams (6 player copies so functions like 14), 5 IDP positions, start 11 IDP, promotion/relegation so 2025 pick ranges are known
Give - 2025 2nd (effectively 2.08-2.10)
Get - 2025 3rd (effectively 3.01-3.03), CJ Gardner-Johnson (CB designation), Budda Baker
Secondary was rough coming into the draft and waivers are picked pretty clean. CJ replaces Asante Samuel and Budda replaces Rayshawn Jenkins as projected starters for me.
12 team SuperFlex, IDP
gametight gets:
Malik Willis QB TEN (rank: 71-908)
CeeDee Lamb WR DAL (rank: 1-15-WR1)
Ainias Smith WR PHI
Young Al's Bucks gets:
James Cook RB BUF (rank: 11-49-RB16)
Ray Davis RB BUF
Garrett Wilson WR NYJ (rank: 30-103-WR8)
2026 1st round pick 1.5 #5 (ROADKILL31'..)
2027 2nd round pick 2.4 #16 (gametight)
12 team SuperFlex (TE Pem), IDP (Sack 4 pts, Force funball 4 pts, QB Hit 1pt)
Trade away Myles Garret for Travis Kelce? My best TE is Pat Freiermuth, and I also have Nick Bosa, Karlaftiss and Jermaine Johnson
Hey JoluGax! We enlisted Professor IDP's help breaking this one down. Here's what he said: Garrett for Kelce seems fair on both sides but give me Kelce. Offense (particularly TE) is more scarce than IDP so if I have to trade elite for elite, give me the elite offensive weapon. The only caveat to this is that I don’t know your roster settings. If you start 10 offensive players and 5 IDP (like one of my leagues), this becomes even more of a slam dunk for the Kelce side. If you start 11/11 (and have deep benches) it gets a lot more level but I would still lean Kelce. If the imbalance is towards IDP such as start 6 offense and 11 IDP, this becomes a much more difficult question.
Thank you!
16 Team Dynasty, Single QB, IDP
Traded AJ Brown and my 7.3
...for...
JSN, 1.13 (drafted Trey Benson), 4.13 (drafted Bralen Trice), and 8.13 (drafted Jaylx Hunt)
Hey Albert! Professor IDP helped us break this one down. Here's his analysis: Not so sure about this one. For offensive pieces I like to look at FantasyPros dynasty ECR. The consensus is that you traded WR7 (OVR10) for WR26 (OVR53) RB16 (OVR59). I like Trice and you got him at a good value with 4.13 (he is my #50 overall rookie) but I don’t know if that is enough to close the gap all of the way. If you have James Conner on your roster and are win-now, were stacked at WR beyond Brown where you could afford to lose him, or are starting a rebuild I like this more for you.
Looking to get younger but still feel with my lineup, I can compete this year.
RB
Benson, Trey
Brown, Chase
Chandler, Ty
Chestnut, Julius
Corum, Blake
Gibbs, Jahmyr
Gore Jr., Frank
Hull, Evan
Pacheco, Isiah
Tracy, Tyrone
Vidal, Kimani
WR
Austin III, Calvin
Bateman, Rashod
Campbell, Parris
Flournoy, Ryan
Jefferson, Van
Nabers, Malik
Peoples-Jones, Donovan
Reed, Jayden
Ross, Justyn KCC
Samuel, Deebo SFO
Smith-Njigba, Jaxon
Williams, Mike
Wilson, Michael
Barno, Amare
Burns, Brian
Fowler, Dante
Green, Rasheem
Houston, James
Hunt, Jalyx
Landry, Harold
Odeyingbo, Dayo
Trice, Bralen
12 Team Superflex IDP (IDP scoring is tackle & big play weighted)
Puka Nacua - Wandale Robinson - EJ Speed
For
Rome Odunze - Jermain Burton - Troy Anderson- Kyzir White - Trenton Simpson
Hi Akin! We had Professor IDP weigh in on this one, here was his take: I am much lower than most on Puka, have already largely given up on Wandale, and as much as I like EJ speed for 2024, he will be a free agent just shy of 30 when March 2025 rolls around. Give me the youth and draft capital invested in Odunze, Burton tied to a high powered offense, Anderson in tackle factory in ATL (if he wins the job back), a likely green dot guy in White, and a potential second-year breakout in Simpson. While the sky is the limit with Puka, it’s hard to imagine his value going up any more so this is a great time to see if you want to cash out and this is the haul that would do it for me.
Awesome insight! Exactly what I was looking for! Ended up accepting the deal and feeling 1,000% better now!!! 🙏
Love to hear it!
14 Team SF TEP 1.5, Big play pt bonuses, pt per 1st down
6pt sack
2pt solo tackle, 1pt assist, 3pt TFL
6pt int, 3pt pass def
1. Send: Travis Etienne
Receive: Rhamondre Stevenson + Travis Kelce
2. Send: Jonathan Brooks + '25 1st
Receive: CMC + Jaelan Phillips
3. Send: Jalen Pitre
Receive: '25 3rd (Early-Mid)
Gentleman, thanks for the input on the show.
Trade 1 hasn't happened yet. Would you still do it if Njoku is my starting TE?
Luke Musgrave is my only other TE
It's a fair trade and makes sense in TEP. Njoku as my starting TE would make me want to grab a better option, too.
- 10-team Dynasty, Superflex, PPR, 12 Off. (2 TE but no distinct TE scoring), 12 Def., 29 bench, 8 IR
- PPR, Tackle Heavy-ish format - 3pt solo, 0.5pt assisted, 2pt TFL, 3pt sack, 2pt QB hit (e.g., solo sack = 10pts; ast. sack = 6). Let me know if more scoring info is needed.
- Draft ~Aug2024
Trade:
Christian Kirk, WR, Jax
Grant Delpit, S, Clv
1.06 (2024)
[Sky Moore dropped]
for
David Montgomery, RB, Det
Travis Kelce, TE, KC
5.07 (2024)
Dynasty league
12 team
Non ppr
1 pt tackle
1/2 pt assist
5 pt int
4 pt sack
1pt pb
-4 pt qb sack
$189 salary cap and 88 years
32 man roster
2 TE premium
11 starters on offense
11 starters on Defense
22 Psquad drafted rookies only with no cap hits unless activated
Defensive players $ value is total projected points divided by 15. Defenders are the most expensive and put up the most points. My league IDP rules the set.
We also use a formula to extend players and give a discount on salary but leave the discount in the contract as guaranteed money. If you extend 4 years it’s a 25% discount off the price of the player, 3 years 20%, 2 years 15% and if you extend for only a year there’s no discount. If you drop that player before the contract is done, you eat that money off your salary cap. Prices for offensive players are pre determined by football analysts average costs and defense is always changing Projected total of Year / 15
During the season you add YtD + Projections/15
All offense waivers are a minimum of $1 we do use Faab to bid and that’s the cost of the player.
I was up against my cap after our in person auction. I picked up some young pieces for $1 each. I won more than I wanted the guys I gave up in the trade were clogging roster as I have stud DL depth. Crosby, Greenard, karloftis, Jermaine Johnson, Hubbard, burns
My lb core : edwards, Ernest jones, Luvu, Campbell (practice squad) Anderson
Dbs hamilton, James, Blackmon, curl
Proposed a trade to acquire Brock Purdy, for 2 reasons I have A.Rodgers on a 1 year $5 deal, Carr on a 1 -$1, Fields in a 3 year $5 per year with $2 guaranteed. I can’t drop anyone of these guys. With the big bye week taking the Jets and Saints off the field, I’ll have to hope Fields is starting by then… not a fan.
Second reason is I have CMC he’s on a 4 year $22 per year with $9 guaranteed.
Purdy is a 5 year $2 no G$ contract
I won the championship last season. So here’s the deal.
I gave up:
Jordan Davis on a 1-1-G$1
Dorian Williams on a 1-1-G$1
Robert Spillane on a 2-$12-G$2
And 24’s 12th overall pick
I received
Brock Purdy 5-$2 contract
‘24 3rd
‘25 3rd
My offense after the trade
Qb Purdy
Qb fields
Qb Rodgers
Qb Carr
Rb CmC
Rb Jacobs
Rb b.robinson (was)
Rb zeke
Wr olave
Wr London
Wr doubs
Wr Wilson
Wr Samuel
Te andrews
Te kittle
Te Mayers
My psquad
QB Aiden O’Connell
QB Stetson Bennett
RB McBride
Rb Rodriguez JR
Wr brownlee
Db s.brown
Db skinner
LB Campbell
LB Simpson
I feel like I could write a second dissertation on the economy of this league! Based on what I've read here is how I see the trade from both sides and my ultimate opinion.
You lose some IDP depth but they are in places you are already solid and/or have high potential pieces on your PS. Plus, swapping Spillane's contract for Purdy's is a huge win. I would say you are in a better position to repeat as champion after this move not just because your team is better but also since you have more cap flexibility now.
That said, if the other owner is in a rebuild, it makes some sense on that end too since they pick up two young and cheap IDP and another piece in Spillane that they can move to a contender for more youth/capital (plus 1.12 this year which could be a nice player or flipped for more rebuilding).
Still, in a league such as yours, I would much rather have Purdy than 3 IDP and a late 1st. The thirds you got back put it over the top for me since they'll help you churn your PS and there is a ton of great developmental talent in the 3rd of most drafts this year and getting IDP rookies seems to be the way in this league since their 1st year projections are usually very low meaning they will be great values.
Great! Thank you for the review and your time. I appreciate it.
Mike, this is one of the most insane league setups I've ever seen (said as a total compliment lol). It's a little too much contextually for us to cover on the show, so we're calling in our resident degenerate trade expert Scott Soltis (AKA Professor IDP) to look this one over and give feedback. Thanks for sending it in!
What’s a good email to send the rule book over to, I would love for you guys to take a peak! I think if you’re into dynasty you will never come across a league like this one. I would be happy to share with my favorite IDP guys
For sure! Send that to us at big3idp@gmail.com. Thanks!
Sent it over. It took me 3 years to find 11 committed owners to fill this league! Enjoy the read
10 team Dynasty contract league. I have Bobby Okereke with only 1 year left on his contract, so I’ll lose him to FA after this season. I have a trade offer straight up for Nick Bolton. I can reassign contract years after the trade.
Tackles 1 pt, Assists 0.5, Sacks 3, INTs 3.
Scott, can you explain the "reassign contract years" part of this deal? Are you saying you can give Bolton the contract Okereke has, meaning you're swapping Okereke for Bolton and both expire after this year? Or would Bolton have some years left on his deal?
If I trade for Bolton, I can assign how many years I want to him. I have 100 years to assign to my 40 man roster and must stay under it each year.
Oh gotcha, that makes sense. What would be your intention with Bolton? Give him some additional years?
Yes correct so I can hold onto him for a couple more years.
12 team
Made 3 trades over the last couple months..Mighta overpaid but feel these guys are the depth final pieces for A run this year.
Trade 1
Gave up my 2025 first for Jack campbell(5 years left on contract)(I live in Detroit area)
Trade 2
Gave up another 2025 first and two 2025 seconds for
Fred Warner(can resign for 4 more years) and Drake Maye(signed for 6 years)
Trade 3
Gave up luke musgrave and a 2025 second for kyle Hamilton..Hamilton is resign able for 4 more years
Hey Michael, is this a superflex league?
This is a 1 qb league 4 point passing .5ppr
Start 9 def
2-5 dt de
2-5 lb
2-5 cb,saf